Sadly, my internet is being fussy today so I missed the last 15 minutes but I listened because I wanted to hear two men, who I believe are offering a voice to raising kids with a parental mentoring mindset. Exposing individual thought, intentionality and purposefulness.
My opinion, there has been a shift away from mentoring, most pronounced with male role models. As such we have a generation, or two, of men who need/want to be valuable but have no clear pathway. An interesting paradigm, in essence we have emasculated men. My point being, both of you, and a couple of others I follow, give a voice on substack not seen as strongly elsewhere. That there is value in a homelife companionship, value in a household of working with partners, value in equality in responsibilities that are not 'untraditional' but really old, old, school practices. Roles that are not necessarily male or female but community and home strength.
I read Jesse's paper weeks back and appreciated his vulnerability, and then his wife's perspective. His devotion to balance shines in this interview and I think you capture this possibility of looking at parenting from a new (old) angle well.
There were so many nuggets each of you shared. I appreciate the mindfulness of purpose.
Beautiful Stacy. Completely agree with you. Jesse’s wisdom and willingness to share his perspectives and experience is incredibly empowering and important when it comes to “traditional” gender roles. His example shows how to live life to the fullest as both a father and man regardless of situation.
I'm humbled by your kind words here, Stacy. To your point about role models, I agree, and I currently find myself scrambling to empower my son to embrace who he is and proceed courageously. Somehow, this intention has become radical, and I'm not sure how we arrived at this point.
I'm really glad you were able to listen to our conversation. Kyle motivated me to get on camera, which I had never been interested in doing, but I'm now glad I did.
Camera can be scary, but you did well. I spent a long time working with at-risk male youth. There was a theme of parenting I as able to glean from working with these students. It is similar to what I also experienced in the backcountry with co-ed youth. We all need mentors. We all need to learn compassion and empathy.
Good use of the word – radical. Says a lot doesn’t it?
Such a fascinating conversation between two writers I thoroughly enjoy on Substack. It was awesome to learn a bit more of Jesse’s background.
The perspectives you both offer are so valuable, be they on fatherhood, writing, hardship, life, anything. One topic you discussed looms large in my mind, AI. I agree it’s a slippery slope but if we can find ways to use it for human benefit it’ll be a net good.
I agree, James. AI is a game changer for the better, mainly as I see it, because of the acceleration of processing power. For writing and research, I think we're in a growth period (scary for some), but I believe that will settle out. Since AI is generally accessible to everyone, it will raise standards for everyone, elevating the game for all. There will be AI-generated writing and then non-AI-generated writing. Technology (ironically?) will help us figure it out.
Great points, Jesse. AI will paradoxically become a way to test human intelligence. Does a person know well enough how to use AI? AI fluency is a marketable skill. It's raising human standards, as you say; it thus falls to humans to keep up. I was recently listening to a panel where the use of AI was brought up. I expected "don't use it" or some variation of that. Instead I got: use it, learn how to use it as best you can. Much as AI might feel like an attack to the human ego, we ought to consider it a tool with which we can better do what we'd want to do anyway.
Well said, James. My biggest concern at this point (from the writer’s perspective), is the cognitive laziness AI can enable. E.g., instead of working painfully through an issues, we turn to AI. That brain muscle doesn’t get worked as a result.
But maybe that’s not an issue since we’re already so reliant on technology.
Wonderful conversation about such meaningful things. Great facilitation of and participation in the chat, Kyle. I have several similarities with your life Jesse, consulting and parenting 50/50 while my partner pursued her full-time career which involved international travel. Parenting is such a complex topic and I enjoyed your thoughts. Substack is indeed a very rich platform allowing people to find folks with similar interests and styles.
Thanks to you both for sharing your thoughts and ideas! 👏
That's really neat to hear, Baird. The consulting/parenting/spousal "dance" is a fun/stressfull/dynamic one. I've weaved in and out of it (most recently in State government), but keep coming back to it since it allows me to stay true to what I value.
Listening to both of you has been fascinating. Your words have given me confidence in myself, especially regarding my writing. I realise it's important for me to take a step back and evaluate my writing. I tend to express my thoughts, feelings, and experiences directly from my heart. However, I find that the more I write, the more my confidence grows when I take the time to proofread and reflect. Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights. So fascinating to note how our paths cross with the benefits of living in nature and the equal support we offer to our children’s growth. Thank you again.
Thank you, Kyle. It is 2:34 AM, and life has felt like it’s been on pause as I listen to your words. Your encouragement has given me the confidence to speak up more about myself and to share how the Stoic community has supported my thoughts and expressions. The support I have received over the last six months could benefit many others, encouraging them to come forward as well. Thank you, for your continued support of yourself and other.
Deborah- Thank you for listening and for your comment here. I'm so glad you enjoyed our conversation. Like Kyle mentioned, that confidence is a product of experience and mindset. I'd add 'preparation,' which is something we do by default as we get more experienced.
Thank you so much for inviting me, Kyle. This was such a great conversation, and time certainly flew by. So many topics to cover, and I think we share a passion for so many of them, which shows in our discussion.
I appreciate your willingness to bring together different voices and perspectives, and your ability to provide guidance and motivation to your readers. I'm honored to be a part of it and hope we have more opportunities like this in the future.
Sadly, my internet is being fussy today so I missed the last 15 minutes but I listened because I wanted to hear two men, who I believe are offering a voice to raising kids with a parental mentoring mindset. Exposing individual thought, intentionality and purposefulness.
My opinion, there has been a shift away from mentoring, most pronounced with male role models. As such we have a generation, or two, of men who need/want to be valuable but have no clear pathway. An interesting paradigm, in essence we have emasculated men. My point being, both of you, and a couple of others I follow, give a voice on substack not seen as strongly elsewhere. That there is value in a homelife companionship, value in a household of working with partners, value in equality in responsibilities that are not 'untraditional' but really old, old, school practices. Roles that are not necessarily male or female but community and home strength.
I read Jesse's paper weeks back and appreciated his vulnerability, and then his wife's perspective. His devotion to balance shines in this interview and I think you capture this possibility of looking at parenting from a new (old) angle well.
There were so many nuggets each of you shared. I appreciate the mindfulness of purpose.
Beautiful Stacy. Completely agree with you. Jesse’s wisdom and willingness to share his perspectives and experience is incredibly empowering and important when it comes to “traditional” gender roles. His example shows how to live life to the fullest as both a father and man regardless of situation.
Thank you, Kyle, for facilitating such a great dialogue.
I think it is meaningful for men to surround themselves with good parenting from other men. Same is (obviously) applicable to women.
I'm humbled by your kind words here, Stacy. To your point about role models, I agree, and I currently find myself scrambling to empower my son to embrace who he is and proceed courageously. Somehow, this intention has become radical, and I'm not sure how we arrived at this point.
I'm really glad you were able to listen to our conversation. Kyle motivated me to get on camera, which I had never been interested in doing, but I'm now glad I did.
Camera can be scary, but you did well. I spent a long time working with at-risk male youth. There was a theme of parenting I as able to glean from working with these students. It is similar to what I also experienced in the backcountry with co-ed youth. We all need mentors. We all need to learn compassion and empathy.
Good use of the word – radical. Says a lot doesn’t it?
Such a fascinating conversation between two writers I thoroughly enjoy on Substack. It was awesome to learn a bit more of Jesse’s background.
The perspectives you both offer are so valuable, be they on fatherhood, writing, hardship, life, anything. One topic you discussed looms large in my mind, AI. I agree it’s a slippery slope but if we can find ways to use it for human benefit it’ll be a net good.
I agree, James. AI is a game changer for the better, mainly as I see it, because of the acceleration of processing power. For writing and research, I think we're in a growth period (scary for some), but I believe that will settle out. Since AI is generally accessible to everyone, it will raise standards for everyone, elevating the game for all. There will be AI-generated writing and then non-AI-generated writing. Technology (ironically?) will help us figure it out.
Great points, Jesse. AI will paradoxically become a way to test human intelligence. Does a person know well enough how to use AI? AI fluency is a marketable skill. It's raising human standards, as you say; it thus falls to humans to keep up. I was recently listening to a panel where the use of AI was brought up. I expected "don't use it" or some variation of that. Instead I got: use it, learn how to use it as best you can. Much as AI might feel like an attack to the human ego, we ought to consider it a tool with which we can better do what we'd want to do anyway.
Well said, James. My biggest concern at this point (from the writer’s perspective), is the cognitive laziness AI can enable. E.g., instead of working painfully through an issues, we turn to AI. That brain muscle doesn’t get worked as a result.
But maybe that’s not an issue since we’re already so reliant on technology.
It’s good to have some issues! Good stuff both of you.
Wonderful conversation about such meaningful things. Great facilitation of and participation in the chat, Kyle. I have several similarities with your life Jesse, consulting and parenting 50/50 while my partner pursued her full-time career which involved international travel. Parenting is such a complex topic and I enjoyed your thoughts. Substack is indeed a very rich platform allowing people to find folks with similar interests and styles.
Thanks to you both for sharing your thoughts and ideas! 👏
That's really neat to hear, Baird. The consulting/parenting/spousal "dance" is a fun/stressfull/dynamic one. I've weaved in and out of it (most recently in State government), but keep coming back to it since it allows me to stay true to what I value.
Listening to both of you has been fascinating. Your words have given me confidence in myself, especially regarding my writing. I realise it's important for me to take a step back and evaluate my writing. I tend to express my thoughts, feelings, and experiences directly from my heart. However, I find that the more I write, the more my confidence grows when I take the time to proofread and reflect. Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights. So fascinating to note how our paths cross with the benefits of living in nature and the equal support we offer to our children’s growth. Thank you again.
Appreciate you Deborah! Like you said, confidence is derived from experience, not just mindset. Always appreciate your reflections
Thank you, Kyle. It is 2:34 AM, and life has felt like it’s been on pause as I listen to your words. Your encouragement has given me the confidence to speak up more about myself and to share how the Stoic community has supported my thoughts and expressions. The support I have received over the last six months could benefit many others, encouraging them to come forward as well. Thank you, for your continued support of yourself and other.
Deborah- Thank you for listening and for your comment here. I'm so glad you enjoyed our conversation. Like Kyle mentioned, that confidence is a product of experience and mindset. I'd add 'preparation,' which is something we do by default as we get more experienced.
Thank you so much for inviting me, Kyle. This was such a great conversation, and time certainly flew by. So many topics to cover, and I think we share a passion for so many of them, which shows in our discussion.
I appreciate your willingness to bring together different voices and perspectives, and your ability to provide guidance and motivation to your readers. I'm honored to be a part of it and hope we have more opportunities like this in the future.